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messengerhermes · 3 days ago
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This comic made me choke on my tea, thank you so much for this. Also, this feels like a case of a news article once again slapping a headline on something for clicks. The rat study is one of several studies to see how an animal's behavior can be changed based on things you expose them to. If this is the study I'm thinking of, scientists put the little jackets on rats once they hit puberty and then put them in situations where they had the chance to bone. The rats then began to show signs of arousal whenever they wore the jacket, because they now associated the jacket with the horizontal wahooey. This experiment doesn't just tell us about what weird things scientists will try to better understand behavior--it shows that given enough times where two unrelated things happen together (ie "wearing a jacket" and "getting to have sex") those things can become linked in the brain. And once that link is formed, you can use one of those unrelated things to remind the subject of the other (ie, rat wears jacket, rat gets rat horny.) Also, there are a lot of "this experiment on rats can tell us something about humans" experiments because rats are really smart and have some biological similarities to humans that are the reasons they are used in experiments. Rats, being tiny mammals who have shorter lifespans, also can be raised in controlled environments that make it easier to figure out what factors are happening in an experiment, versus humans, who have to live out in the world and deal with A Lot of Shit that can impact our health and muddle up experimental data. Also, ethical standards mean it's easier to make sure you're not abusing a rat in an experiment versus worrying about abusing a person (because racism amongst other forms of oppression). (this is not to say that science is without animal cruelty, or that transferring rat data to humans is completely sound or without flaws. That shit is highly debatable, especially with medical experiments). TLDR: The sexy rat jacket experiment helped give more evidence towards what a lot of kinky people can already tell you: If you keep experiencing certain sex-neutral things alongside actual sexual stimuli, you will start to associate those things with sex. Bonus: Some scientists did a different horny rat experiment where they gave a bunch of rats a lemon fetish by exposing them to the scent of lemons every time they got the opportunity to bone. Some rats liked the lemon experience so much they only would have sex if lemon scent was also present. Graduating I guess from kinky rat to fetishist rat.
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fast and easy lesson on how niche animal testing studies turn into drink a glass of wine a day to prevent heart disease.
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phoenixyfriend · 3 days ago
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So let's talk about the Plagiarism thing
This is going to be a timeline, and a statement of facts.
Before we start, I want to say three things up front.
One: The facts are not at issue. We know that they got the idea from my post, because they told us exactly which post inspired it. We know that there were not fics in this intersection of tropes before my posts. (Or rather, I know it, because I looked it up when this all first started happening.)
Two: Your perception of the facts may differ from mine. Whether or not you consider it plagiarism per se may differ. I'm not really sold on it being plagiarism as such myself, I just think that doing things in the manner they did violated fandom norms and was a dick move.
Three: This is not a call for harassment. Don't harass Radish. I'd appreciate you offering up this timeline if the issue comes up in a discord server or a tumblr community or whatever, just so people have all the facts, but do not harass Radish. I just want to counter a narrative that I personally think is quite one-sided and makes me out to be unreasonable for... paying attention when they told me which of my posts they used as a prompt.
I am going to be as honest as I can about my own failings here. I will not shy away from admitting when a factor in it was my own pride, cowardice, pettiness, or lack of emotional control. But I will also have screenshots and timestamps.
Okay? Great, let's go.
For several years, I would make a point of talking about how more modern AU CodyWan fics should play the age difference straight. This was because, for much of my time in this fandom, I've been frustrated with people doing large age mods on CodyWan to make it less of a power imbalance, but then getting upset with me for doing small age mods for RexSoka.
You can check timestamps if you want. Here is a selection of reblogs from the other day, so you can see the original text and timestamps on the posts. You can check anything with a 'self reblog' tag in the notes to confirm for yourself that these are not edited to rewrite history:
Originally posted Dec 1, 2021: Young Adult Cody in love with his middle-aged boss.
Originally posted Mar 30, 2022: All of Cody's brothers being confused about Hot Young Successful Cody being enamored with a walking sweatervest. Mentions of Bio Researcher Obi-Wan. I credit about half of this one to @masteryaddleisagilf.
Originally posted Feb 7, 2023: Hot Young Successful Cody falling for a bedraggled wet scientist who got covered in mud trying to get a sample. Had several variations in the reblogs. Fun fact! Someone in the notes said I wanna write it and I told them to do so. I was very okay with the idea of someone other than me writing this. Literally just want people to link the inspo post in their A/Ns.
Now.
April 15, 2023: Someone sends me an ask letting me know that there is a fic with the above premise, including some eerily similar phrasing, on AO3. There's no mention of me, and lbr college AUs are very common, and I'm not the only person to talk about age diff CodyWan, so I figure it's maybe a coincidence?
Here's the thing: I went into the comments. I thought "hey, if someone came to my ask box with this, then probably multiple people noticed, and maybe someone asked!" There were no comments to that effect, but there were a decent number of comments talking about how unique and original it was to do, very specifically, College AU CodyWan with an age difference, focusing on science disaster Obi-Wan and Hot Young Cody. I checked over multiple days, just in case someone saw the ask and decided to present the question on my behalf because the idea of reading the fic itself was giving me anxiety.
And I did get jealous. I did not act on that jealousy. In fact, given that I've previously gotten Really Weird about attribution for things that weren't actually my original idea, and feel embarrassed about it (this was over a decade ago, and I'd put a lot of effort into growing from it), I tried pretty hard to dismiss that jealousy.
I did think 'wow, if these people had just come across my posts instead of this fic, they'd have realized I came up with it first! Maybe. I mean, it's pretty long, and I don't remember posting about this specific dynamic before February' [I had, across several years] 'so maybe they started writing it around the same time I started chatting on tumblr just by coincidence. Maybe I should have written it for real instead of just chatting on tumblr, then I wouldn't feel so weird about people telling someone else that they invented such a cool and unique premise.'
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There are fewer than I remember there being, so I don't know if this is an issue of my memory having overblown how many people commented on it being unique and original, if those comments were deleted at some point, or something else. It's possible it's a memory issue.
I checked on the intersection of modern AU and age difference Codywan fics. There weren't any. The only ones that came up during my search, the age difference applied to a different ship. Maybe more have been written since then, but at the time, the only places that had age diff modern CodyWan were my blog, and this fic.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, only one person brought it up on my behalf, with my approval, and they were very polite. I was pretty insistent on keeping it nice and polite because it was still unknown! Still ambiguous!
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No response, oh well. I dismiss it. I put it out of my mind as best I can, don't talk about it again, move on.
I also, for unrelated fics, start following Anonymous Radish. I was a big fan of Kyrbej Riduur and Trespass, in particular, along with Hierarchy of Needs.
Jan 6, 2024: I recommended them, publicly, as one of my favorite authors of 2023. I do not joke about actually having loved their other works.
Jan 7, 2024: Someone asked me why I was recomending them after people had brought up that it seemed they were using my work without credit. I very explicitly said that I had no proof and had planned to just move on with my life. I did not intend to pursue this, and the plausible deniability was there. You can open the link, but here's a screenshot of the answer I gave:
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Jan 9, 2024: Someone tells me that they do have a tumblr now, and also says "Honestly, I'm this invested because I kinda put them on a do not read list because that thing was just too specific to be a coincidence in my book, so I was surpriesed you recced them. Like who cares if they use a prompt but give credit please."
Again, you can visit the link, but here's a screenshot:
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Later that same day, I sent an ask.
Their answer included:
Mandela effect or whatever but I could swear you were part of the thread that had me inspired to do a 22 year old Cody thirsting after mid-thirties Obi-Wan but it was.... not the post you linked? It was some super long convo post and I didn't link anybody because 'Modern college Codywan AU' is so common.
They then found the exact post that had inspired the fic, and linked it. It's the March 2022 one.
So we now have the facts: the fic was, explicitly, inspired by my post. The very specific premise was from my work.
Now, that doesn't necessarily count as plagiarism; it might be enough for a court of law if we were making money, but probably not.
But in most fandom circles, it is a dick move. You don't necessarily have to ask permission, but you have to link to an inspo, right? It's just polite. Linking to your inspiration/prompt is just polite.
This is why I added the "all roads" joke. I hoped it would prompt a moment of 'oh hey, this would be the polite thing to do.'
...I was, I'll admit, spiraling. A bit bitter, resentful, jealous, etc. I didn't want to keep pressing myself, but it was weirding me out.
Two people, friends, offered to send asks saying 'hey, it's a bit of a faux pas to not link the post when you know where you got the prompt/idea from. Maybe just add a line about it in the A/N?'
They were polite. I think there were three asks sent, in total, from people I know. One of them sent twice; first time anonymously, second time in person. Both times very polite, because I was still in 'plausible deniability, maybe they just don't know' mode.
If other people sent messages, I did not know. I did not suggest or request a harassment campaign, I just had two people I know in the DMs ask if I wanted to see if getting that commentary from a person who does not benefit (since I benefit) would jog a reaction/reconsideration from Radish.
If other people sent messages, it was not at my request, or with my approval.
About two months later, Radish hid that fic along with a dozen others. They also nuked their tumblr and blocked me on AO3.
Ironically, I never even brought it up on AO3. But the action did support the idea that the fic was taken down because people had started to point out that they'd pulled a wee bit of a James Somerton.
To me... to me and a lot of people in the DMs (iirc I didn't discuss this publicly?) the energy of that fic being hidden was that they were resentful of the idea that people knew they weren't responsible for the origination of the core concept and main attraction of their fic, and that it bothered them that the praise wouldn't be going to them for coming up with something cool and unusual and Unique.
Now, I will admit that I was petty. I did occasionally go searching for the fic to see what people were saying, on tumblr and on reddit. Mostly, I was trying to see if anyone had comments on the validity of my own claims regarding 'was it rude to not cite the concept origination,' but also to see if... IDK Radish had put out a statement.
Pretty much all I found, though, was people looking for that hidden fic.
If someone was looking for the fic, I would explain that the fic had been taken down because people wanted a statement on why they were so uncomfortable with citing the post they used as a prompt. I'd link those posts above; on reddit, I'd usually just copy-paste in the bottom section of this post, where I discuss a more rudimentary timeline of events.
But I was being petty, and I'll admit that. I didn't like the idea that a person could violate the rules of fandom etiquette and then just come back a bit later once it had all blown over. If it were a one-time interaction, that would be one thing, but this was an ongoing doubling-down on a situation where they had already said that they got it from me.
...yesterday, Jun 10, 2025, they unrevealed their fic with the following:
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Bit weird, you know, to say "this fic was not based off the tumblr prompt," when they told me exactly which post had inspired it.
Clearly, Radish and I have very different views on what is or isn't appropriate levels of attribution in fandom. Personally, I like to link things even when they're only tangentially related. For instance, I cite a glimmerglanger fic as inspo for a fairly generic Sex Slave Obi AU (here) and a Bleach fic as inspo for Slaves of the Senate AU, along with multiple Star Wars fics that are so widespread at this point that people are probably treating them as fairly standard, non-attributable settings at this point. I thought the core concept had drifted too much for me to actually link via "Inspired By" for Shmi Acquires Some Teenagers, but I still cited "it took a wild heart to tame mine" by NeonFaces in the A/N because I felt it would be disingenuous not to.
On an occasion where I was subconsciously inspired by someone, even for a concept that was pretty common, I went back and added attribution once I realized. I take this shit seriously.
Anyway.
Radish's comments are now full of people talking about how incredibly original and unique Age Diff Modern AU CodyWan is, and how they've never seen that done before so clearly I must be insane for suggesting it came from me.
Very disparaging things about my intelligence and research ability, too. People seem to think that I don't know college AUs are bog standard.
Fun how they don't mention that they once told me, in public, exactly which of my posts inspired the fic.
(I will lock this post against reblogs if you guys get weird about it.
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robinsnest2111 · 2 years ago
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brain just reminded me of a tiny inconsequential thing from work and now I feel absolutely horrible for no reason????
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swallowtail-ageha · 8 months ago
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Thing about small italian villages is that the didnt really have roads up until the 70's which of course leads to a massive amount of cousin marriage and inbreeding and while yes my particular own has its issues regarding that (3 major families (one of whom i am part of!!! Yay!!!) that all of the other families are related to, everyone there has bone/joint problems or some sort of schizofrenia) the neighboring one is worse as in they have one major family and the rest of the inhabitants are ppl who immigrated to have a quiet life in the mountain slopes and that by itself could be an extremely interesting study bcs everyone there kinda looks the same-ish and has a frankly insane amount of people with developmental disabilities for a population this small
#ok now that i have typed it out i realized it sounds mean and i want to earnestly say that i am not mocking them i just suck at tone#i do not think its something to be laughed at i just think the whole thing is uh. i wouldnt say tragic but really no one's fault#bcs again. if you live in the mountains where the main city is hard to reach bcs of poor road conditions#which leads to isolation and also extreme stigma against the village folk *of course* the village#will become more secluded and incestuous marriages will happen (aside from the obv economical factor#that a pre industrial reality would entrail)#its just. fascinating on a sociological and genetical level. esp since by when the roads were functional#and the village folk stigma had already gone away the whole 'we stay here we stay together we are better than anyone bcs they are envious#of us and we will continue inbreeding and any kids with severe disabilities born from it are actually Blessed because they are born from us#has already taken so much root it is now unlikely to be eradicated . the nature of italian villages is that every once in a while#someone reinvents blood purity and eugenetics lmao#anyways this whole incest thing is also the reason why i get frustrated about those books that have#the main characters go into small bigoted villages and either finding peace there or be horrified by its conservatives ideas#while never digging on the *why*. like yeah all this 'what happens in the village stays in the village and everyone else is an enemy'#but they never dig into why that mentality was born to begin with and how incest there#actively helps this mentality to continue on like you legit still have grandmas telling you to marry ur cousin#anw. i dont know what i was going for w this rant. it originated from knowing that my aunt turned local saint#was actually schizophrenic and was prone to paranoid attacks and mental breakdowns similar to mine#fun stuff!
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ourceliumnetwork · 1 year ago
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having to physically remind myself i'm allowed to enjoy downtime especially if i've already done Tasks and Important Things.
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light-wrath-paradise · 1 year ago
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One thing about me is you can always count on me to want the character who is incomprehensible. People often say "Oh you're gonna want this one for sure" because they think I have a type. There's the secret: There is no type. The only type is confusion.
If the character you are showing to me is perfectly comprehensible and makes sense well unfortunately I will be normal about them. Horny? Perhaps. But to a normal degree.
Show me a cunt who makes no sense at all and it's over. I'm finished. KO'd. I'm done. It's over for me forever.
#at this point i have learned this about myself as well#because i didnt know this either suprisingly#i got the memo after i became insane about Gor//tash#after that i went 'oh ok i think i understand it all now'#actually there ARE some outliers but those are artificially manufactured outliers#as in i become insane about any character i analyse. which means that i get really weird and freaky even if theyre comprehensible#its that uuuh its that one quote. about how you need to understand your enemy in order to defeat them but once you understand#them you love them. so i think thats just what happens in my brain after an analysis. and some of the characters are outliers#because they are both incomprehensible and have been analysed. but that is perhaps a different factor#like as in i become insane about an incomprehensible character i analyse them to understand#i get even more insane.#funniest example of his has got to be Var//ney Castle//vania because the analysis doesnt even explain anything thats wrong with him#like it says a lot of other stuff but hes just incomprehensible for fun. even from a meta perspective hes hilarious they literally#had only two designs and the result is the combination of both of them. no nobody explains why he specifically has weird eyes#see? incomprehensible.#anyway sorry for that. but yeah basically people need to stop being surprised that i want to rail a character when theyre#a puzzle for me to solve or to try to solve. like??? what were you expecting.#show me a character with problems that would take a team of psychologists from all approaches several decades to understand#and ill show you how weird i can get. literally my only criterion for getting insane and unhinged about a character#this is a psa so that nobody gets surprised in the future
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twilightofthesandwiches · 2 years ago
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When talking about the distinction between Simon Petrikov and the Ice King,  it’s important to remember that originally, the Crown wasn’t trying to turn Simon into Ice King -
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It was trying to turn him into this guy.
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At the time, the Ice Crown - or rather the Wishing Crown - was programmed with Gunther’s wish to become Evergreen. So everything related to making the current wearer like Evergreen is a very direct result of the Crown’s Magic. The physical changes -
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And the obsession with the name ‘Gunther’ -
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And maybe some of the irritability and anger issues -
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That is something the Crown is very directly forcing unto its current wielder. 
But everything else?
Ice King, personality-wise, was not much like Evergreen at all, or even like Gunther's view of him. And Ice Finn of the Farmworld Universe was also pretty different from the both of them.
At the time, I remember people assumed Ice Finn’s behavior is more indicative of what the Crown is actually trying to do with its wielders. That Ice King is so different because of Simon’s subconscious resistance against the Crown - while Finn’s much younger and dumber brain is a lot susceptible to the Curse’s influence to become some sort of mad world-conquering emperor of ice and snow. 
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But, with the context of the Crown’s actual backstory. That doesn’t seem very likely anymore. I think what’s actually happening there is that the Crown is just trying to make its wielder an Ice Wizard on par with Evergreen (who was the Actual Goddam Ice Elemental) and that means pumping the wielder’s brain so full of Magic, Madness and Sadness to a level that is bound to overwhelm anyone.
And Simon’s and Farmworld Finn’s very different behaviors after putting on the crown is indicative, more than anything, of how their psyche reacts to Madness and Sadness in general. You know, Finn has a very proactive and kinda aggressive personality - and you add Crown-induced-Madness-and-Sadness and a compulsion to use Ice Magic as much as possible and you get all of…. this 
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Meanwhile, for Simon, the compulsions of the Crown originally filtered exclusively via the language of protection 
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As his madness always manifested as romantic obsession 
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And using goofy humor to try and deny the pain he’s going through 
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Because that’s how Simon’s mind specifically reacts to being flooded with so much Madness and Sadness.
That’s why there’s so many parallels between Ice King and the sort of mistakes and screwed-up stuff Simon does right now! He’s even kidnapping people again!
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Because the Madness and Sadness of Ice King might’ve been induced by the Crown, but now Simon has plenty of personal home-grown Madness and Sadness inside him - and it’s no surprise that Curse-Induced or not, his mind reacts to it in a sorta-similar way. (Although obviously not as intensely, again, there was a LOT of MMS in the Ice Crown).
Now as for Ice Thing, and the fact that he seems to be actually rather well-adjusted under effects of his version of the Wishing Crown. I mean... not by the time of the 1000+ Era, but that’s literally eons in the future and also maybe more Gibbon’s fault. Even if the Crown will eventually take some sort of toll on him, for now he seems to be doing pretty well considering his wish. I mean, there's still some sort of Loss of Identity stuff going on
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But everything we've seen of Ice Thing (in the present day, at least) shows him as a friendly and cheerful individual that gets along well with others. A far cry from how maladjusted every single wielder of the Ice Crown acted.
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At the very least, if there's any notable amount of Sadness in him, we really haven't seen it yet.
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There might be several factors here:
First things first, I should acknowledge the possibility that it’s just that Orgalorg’s eldritch brain is better at intaking all that MMS juice. That could play a part, but I think it’s probably more important, at least thematically, to look at the distinction between ‘I wish to be Evergreen’ and ‘I wish to be Ice King’. 
First in the sense that while Ice King was occasionally mean to Gunter at times - he was generally much kinder than Evergreen ever was for ‘his’ Gunther. So, like, pretty much the one Personality Flaw of Ice King that you can directly link to the Ice Crown’s attempt to mimic Evergreen is the occasional anger issues.
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And how they relate to Gunther’s view of Evergreen, so grumpy and controlling and constantly saying ‘NO!’
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(Both Finn and Simon’s demonstrable not-crown-induced trauma responses can make them pretty short-tempered as well. So I’m not going to say this is purely the effects of the Crown. It still probably plays some sort of factor at why the wielder of the Ice Crown is Like That).
And that is not a factor in how Gunter views Ice King. For him, Ice King was a doting and loving father figure - so if the Crown was ever trying to implement any sort of specific negative personality traits, this is absolutely no longer a factor. Because the original Ice Crown was a reflection of Evergreen’s abuse, and now Ice Thing is a reflection of Ice King’s fatherly love.
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Which is, itself, probably an echo or remnant of Simon’s own strong parental instincts. 
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Secondly, while the Crown was trying to make the Ice King just as powerful as Evergreen…. Ice King was obviously not as powerful as Evergreen. Because he was already a second-rate copy of the Ice Elemental’s power, and because Ice King was often just too doofy to use his powers correctly and probably because some remnant of Simon’s original sensible self is subconsciously holding his powers back.
Either way, being ‘like Ice King’ as Gunter sees him requires less Magic than being ‘like Evergreen’ as Gunther saw him - and therefore less Madness and Sadness. Leading to the wearer or, um, the eater being a lot more well-adjusted from the get-go.
And I think that the implication that Ice Thing has fused with the Crown, so there's never going to be another poor sap who puts on the Crown and gets Ice King'd. But if there is one somehow... at least the process is going to be less mentally detrimental that time around?
Maybe one day Simon could look back and appreciate how much he (or Ice King, or both of them, or however you want to look at the situation) is responsible for basically neutralizing the Crown that ruined his life in the first place.
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beatrice-otter · 8 months ago
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Is there any plan for after Harris loses (which seems inevitable at this point)? People are pointedly not talking about after, so I assume that Trump winning really does mean everything is Over in a very final way.
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Both of those assertions are wrong.
Polls are notoriously unreliable (and getting less reliable), and things are close. I honestly have no idea who's going to win. But right now, fivethirtyeight.com (which is the best overall politics predictor in the US, and has been for the last several election cycles) has Harris ahead by 1.3 points. So, no, Trump winning is not inevitable.
But especially with things this close and the election this close, this is the least likely time for people to be publicly talking about contingency plans for a Trump win. The more people think Trump is going to win, the less likely Harris voters are to show up at the polls ... which means that Trump is more likely to win. Talking about how awful a Trump presidency would be if he got elected can motivate people to vote, when paired with "but voting for Harris can help prevent that!" Talking about what to do after he wins (if he does) is much more concrete and much more likely to convince people that there's no point in voting, we need to move on to the next step of preparing for the inevitable. But it isn't inevitable! Not even close!
Organizations at all levels--political groups, advocacy groups, charities, legal aid groups, etc.--have been preparing all along. But the more you talk about those contingencies in public, the more likely you are to actually need them.
And the thing is, we know a Trump win would be bad. How bad, and in what way exactly ... depends on a lot of factors. His first term was bad, but he was prevented from achieving his goals because he is incapable of keeping competent people around, and nobody knew how to make the bureaucracy of government do what they wanted it to do. He may have fixed that problem, he may not. We know what his goals are and those of his closest allies. What we don't know is, would he be better able to carry those goals out this time if he wins, and if so, how many of them he will be able to enact. And what we, as leftists, can do in the event of a Trump presidencey depends on all of those things!
So it's much better to point out that the odds are in Harris' favor right now (even if not by much) and we need to go out and make sure they stay in Harris' favor.
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dan-ish · 3 months ago
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Can we really call Cale oblivious?
When I was reading tcf for the first time I had the question "Why is cale oblivious to his own actions destroying his slacker dream? Why does this man turn the world upside down and still thinks he might be unknown at the end of the day? ?" In my mind all the time..
So, I decided to analyse his actions in his own perspective!
What did Kim Rok Soo do that was so different from Cale? Nothing really, in both lives he's doing the same exact thing :
• Fighting the evil beings with overwhelming advantage (as much as he could).
• Scamming the bad guys in whatever way he does it.
• Preparing several plans for most possible situations before stepping in.
•Encourages and helps his people to become stronger and uses their abilities in the most efficient way helping them 'stand out more than him' as he thinks.
• Has no problem in retreating if the situation is not going as intended, prioritise his people's wellbeing above all else!
• Works from the rear as a strategist, but is always ready to step in whenever the situation goes south to flip the tables; not just turn them.
He has been doing this since he became a team leader and has continued in the same manner after transmigrating, so far almost 13 years !!
But here's the one most important difference between now and then: Cale is not affected by the White Star's curse anymore! Since it broke the moment he transmigrated into Cale's body nothing now is hiding his achievements from the world.
However, as a victim of both WS's reincarnation and og Cale's transmigration, (the curse's cause and its breaker) he had no idea, until recently, so this is the thing Cale does not understand the most. He may have figured out the concept of what effected him but he's yet to link his past to his present comparing them to the point he believes this is an important factor of why he's becoming a worlds wide hero.
So when he says 'i just wanted to be a small hero why isn't it working like it always has?!' he actually means it and is genuinely confused! (And certainly justified) Because why ,if he does almost the same strategy, is he's having different results this time!?
The variables become clearer if you have an outsider pov, for example: krs's curse made it that he can't cherish anything or be cherished, that's why all the people he cared about left him one way or another, This explains why Cale can't understand why his family care for him. Something inside of him thinks unconsciously "How are they still here?". It's not that he's in denial, it's rather that he has never been given the chance to process this love and care in his 40 years of life, for as soon as he starts to accept that he may have a chance of happiness, it's immediately stolen from him, leaving him more traumatized than before...
Another side would be that every time a chance arised for him to standout in public, like the speech thing he talked about, "something" would happen; a monster outbreak, an accident, or maybe an unexpected attack from some evil ability users...
Which means it's not only his desire to stay hidden that has been keeping his achievements in the dark as krs, it was mostly his curse and when he couldn't be praised he thought 'Well, who wants public recognition anyway?'
You can see he was well-known inside his feild, the government,guilds and throughout the company, He was almost an idol to the people in the brain team! But that's where it stopped, always.
So, it's totally understandable how Cale gets confused everytime he does something good and is praised and cheered for by the citizens; what he had learnt from YEARS of experience is that whatever he did, in the end it remained between these companies walls. [It mostly won't go further unless someone is digging around, like the assassins and illegal guilds that hated him]
No matter what good deeds he does, he can't be 'loved', for he is cursed to be left alone. I mean, we still barely know ANYTHING about team leader krs,his abilities, exact strategies, his team and their relationship with each other what other hardships did he face?
The speech curse is one thing we figured just recently and it never crossed my mind before that he could have been in such a situation...
Maybe he never bought a better house because each time he tried it would get destroyed because he "can't have anything to cherish" so he had to be stuck with the wrecked place that triggered his records and brought him more pain and suffering...?
Back to the point, krs was free to do much more without standing out, he didn't have these "fame/heroic consequences" as for he thought this was the norm for him at least, and tbf that's a major one less headache for him to deal with since he had enough enemies already. And he's a shy little boy but we don't talk about that !
And one little thing to note, he's used to trouble coming after him, and he has this sense of responsibility that he should be the one dealing with all of the trouble since most of the time he concluded that he was the reason everyone around him got hurt...and he can't forget so that's two reasons why he's now dealing with all these problems even if his actions now have such consequences or if it brings him more trouble.
If your daily life was like this of course you'll be confused to WHY ISN'T IT WORKING OUT I JUST WANTED TO LIVE IN PEACE !!!
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larcenywrites · 10 months ago
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Top 5 Logan's kinks 👀?
These are in no particular order!
Top 5 Kinks
Logan Howlett x Reader
Warnings: 18+ NSFW | no pronouns used for reader | there’s like- two cutesy moments if it counts for anything :3
Breeding/bare- Sure, Logan’s a man. He’s obviously going to prefer no condom. It just feels better for both parties! But Logan is a possessive man, and a territorial beast. It’s only natural for him to mark you in the most primal way he can! But in the case you are able to get pregnant… that’s actually terrifying. Logan is terrified of actually having kids… (which isn’t to say he doesn’t want them… but there are a lot of other problems involved with that 😅) But at his core, Logan is an animal. More so than a “normal” human. It’s literally just another part of his predator instinct. It doesn’t matter if it’s a rough fucking or making love, once he gets into it, you’ll have to remind him several times to pull out (assuming you remember yourself 😩). It also doesn’t help that he can literally smell when you’re ovulating 😳 he gets… pretty ornery— if he even can be more ornery than normal! He’s possessive and horny and really struggling to care despite the risk and his fears 😮‍💨 And with his nose buried in your neck the whole time, not very subtle as he breathes in your scent and damn near panting, it’s really all he can think about 🥴
Collaring- It probably took a lot of practice and maybe a little bit of taming, but Logan is very fond of collar time :3 I have a lot to say about this one, so there’s actually hcs right here! And maybe I just couldn’t think of another kink ;)
Play-fighting/Rough play- Obviously, the constraints of this kink will heavily depend on you 😅 But anything from a quick wrestle to digging your nails into his throat to—if you rile him up enough in the right situation—straight-up stabbing him is on the turn-on list 🤠 You could push him back on the bed a little too confidently, and you’ll activate that fighter instinct... and Logan is actually just pretty playful 🥹 He’s far too strong for you to actually push around very much, but he still likes to have you fight back ;) Don’t worry! Even when he puts you in a headlock between his big ol biceps, he’s still gentle! But fight back!!!!! Even if you know you won’t win!!! Bite his arm, kick him, something!!!!! Maybe having you struggle in his grasp turns him on (prey drive???), but actually having you fight back gets him rock-hard 😩 Training in the Danger Room? The others definitely give you both a hard time at every session now after a spar turned a little more hands-on one time… it was one time 😒 Back in the bedroom, he can enjoy some general rough play as well. Maybe it’s the healing factor, maybe he’s become quite the masochist after a century or two of living, but don’t be afraid to claw down his back and bite as hard as you need into his shoulder! Choke him while he’s collared, or when you’re feeling pretty confident while he’s letting you top for once! Unfortunately, he won’t have anything to show for all your hard work :( but he enjoyed it!
Grinding/dry humping- Logan is a man of action! And an impatient one at that when he’s gotten riled up. It probably took a while to get him into the groove of non-penetrative sex! Besides, sometimes that’s your only option 😅 But Logan is definitely a true believer now 😈 Wake him up by grinding bare on his tummy, or invade his little stress relief hideaway where he’s smoking and/or drinking to hump his thigh 😘 Watch him roll his head back and close his eyes with a sighed grunt of satisfaction. He doesn’t need to watch. Much more into the feeling, your smell, pawing at your thigh/ass… When it comes to full-on dry humping, the man probably swears more and gets more choked up than during penetrative sex 🥴 And for once, he prefers to be bottom while you ground your hips into his. He has to admit, there’s something about the friction of his jeans and the fact you’re both still fully clothed that’s surprisingly way more hot… or perhaps you’re even both still in uniform! Sometimes the adrenaline rush after training just can’t wait 😘
Scenting/smelling- Maybe not necessarily a kink? But it’s definitely something he does on a regular basis, sometimes without either of you really thinking about it! Sometimes he’s just being playful with it! Like sticking his head under your shirt and rubbing his face on your tummy a few times before just resting there with that heavy sigh dogs do when they get comfy in their bed 🥰 If he’s in a good enough mood and tired enough, you might even get a head bump or two to the shoulder while out with the others! It’s definitely not always so innocent and sweet, though… He can pick up smells better than a damn bloodhound, and, combined with that territorial instinct mentioned earlier, there’s definitely going to be some freaky stuff going on behind closed doors 😏 Yes, it’s probably going to be a bit embarrassing every time he sniffs your sex before going down on you. And when sticks his nose in the wet spots he just made you leave on the end 😐 And probably when he sniffs your neck before rubbing his face there. He’s absolutely gotten possessive about you smelling like another man… or maybe he just really doesn’t like waking up in bed to the smell of LeBeau lingering right next to him 😒 Cuddling is one thing, but when he starts trying to subtly rub you down with his face? Well, it’s not very subtle 😐 But he’ll make sure you smell like him again 😌 It settles his territorial side. It’s comforting, in a way! But it also definitely turns him on a little without him meaning for it! Especially when you walk through and he can smell his own arousal on you from the day before ;)
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xjulixred45x · 26 days ago
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The CUSTODY BATTLES for little Yuu would go crazy
I imagine it’s mostly the vice dorm heads (and Azul) plus the teachers and technically Crowley but no one really thinks he should win
Floyd and or Kalim are probably the ones actually hanging with Yuu while this is happening
But also!!!!!
Imagine if RSA caught wind of little Yuu (probably during VDC or through Che’nya) and threw their hat into the ring
DUDE, ITS THE DISNEY VERSION OF CIVIL WAR
While I'd honestly limit Yuu's custody battle to NRC, since we don't know much about RSA for them to get involved (I like Chenya, but Niege… it makes me cringe, I don't know why), I can see Ambrosius acting as the judge of the case, being the most biased (and the biggest Crowley hater, not counting all of us).
Everyone agrees, even the factions (dorms) that now hate each other's guts, that Crowley MUST NOT WIN. They do everything they can to keep him away from Yuu during their custody battles, not inviting him to debates about which dorm is best for Yuu, sabotaging him, exposing him as a horrible caretaker (and person/director in general), etc. He's eliminated from the competition before it even begins.
Vice dorm leaders like Jamil, Trey, and Lilia are rather passive-aggressive with each other, whether it's making disparaging comments about each other's dorms behind each other's backs, bragging that Yuu spent more time in (insert dorm) that week, etc. Lilia has tried several times to steal Yuu away when he visits other dorms; there's already an entire system in Heartslabyul to avoid Lilia, it almost feels like a war zone.
Azul is more strategic, having tried to negotiate with some of the more desperate/willing dorms to share Yuu, like Ignihyde and Pomefiore, but it got ugly pretty quickly (not only is Idia a "terrible influence" and Vil didn't want Yuu spending time with him, but Idia became more demanding about Yuu's time in Ignihyde). Obviously, Azul had a backup plan in case this happened, having one of the twins go after Yuu while the dorm leaders were away, but he didn't account for the Rook/Ortho factor (Jade almost didn't tell the tale).
There are some who outright kidnap Yuu from the dorms, similar to Lilia, like Malleus or Rook (and to some extent Ace and Deuce, but they see it as a "rescue mission"), turning it into a constant game of tug-of-war. Meanwhile, Yuu remains ignorant of everything and believes it's some kind of hot potato game the whole school plays, having the time of their life.
The teachers are much calmer in the destruction department, but that doesn't make the tension any less noticeable; it's like a courtroom drama or card games, where no one is anyone's ally. Crewel says Trein shouldn't have custody because he's too old, Vargas says Crewel shouldn't have custody because he has too many dogs to take care of a child, Sam says Vargas shouldn't have custody because he's dumber than a rock, and Trein says Sam shouldn't have custody because he's too young.
While all this drama, destruction, bloodshed, and so on is going on, Kalim and Floyd are somewhere in NRC with Yuu, happily watching the strange shapes the clouds are taking (due to Malleus's bad mood) and planning what to do at Scarabia's next big water party.
Meanwhile, one of the NRC rooms can be seen exploding in green lightning in the background. This is going to be a long one.
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(ESPAÑOL)
NO MAMES HOMBRE, ESTO ES LA VERSION DISNEY DE CIVIL WAR
Aunque sinceramente limitaría la guerra de custodia de Yuu a NRC, ya que no sabemos mucho de RSA como para que se metan (Chenya me agrada, pero Niege…me da cringe no sé porque), aunque sí puedo ver a Ambrosius funcionando como el juez del caso al ser el más parcial (y el mayor hater de Crowley sin contar todos nosotros).
Todos están de acuerdo, incluso las facciones (dormitorios) que ahora se odian a muerte, Crowley NO DEBE GANAR. Hacen todo lo posible para evitar que él se acerque a Yuu durante sus peleas por la custodia, no lo invitan a los debates sobre cual dormitorio es mejor para Yuu, lo sabotean, lo desenmascaran como un horrible cuidador (y persona/director en general), etc. Queda eliminado de la competencia antes de siquiera empezar.
Los vice rectores como Jamil, Trey y Lilia son más bien pasivo agresivos entre sí, ya sea haciendo comentarios despectivos a espaldas del otro respecto al dormitorio del otro, presumiendo que Yuu paso más tiempo en (inserta dormitorio) esa semana, etc. Lilia ha intentado varias, varias veces robarse a Yuu cuando va a visitar otros dormitorios, ya hay un sistema entero en Heartslabyul para evitar a Lilia, casi parece una zona de guerra.
Azul es más estratégico, ha intentado negociar con algunos de los dormitorios más desesperados/dispuestos a compartir a Yuu, como Ignihyde y Pomefiore, pero se puso feo muy rápido (Idia no solo es una “terrible influencia” y Vil no quería que Yuu pasara tiempo con él, sino que Idia se puso más exigente con el tiempo que Yuu pasara en Ignihyde). Obviamente Azul tenía un plan de respaldo en caso de que esto pasara, hacer que uno de los gemelos fuera por Yuu mientras los líderes de dormitorio estuvieran fuera, pero no contó con el factor Rook/Ortho (Jade casi no la cuenta).
Hay algunos que directamente secuestran a Yuu de los dormitorios de forma similar a Lilia, como Malleus o Rook (y hasta cierto punto Ace y Deuce, pero ellos lo ven como una “misión de rescate”), volviéndose un juego de tira y afloja constante. Mientras tanto, Yuu permanece ignorante de todo y cree que es una especie del juego de papa caliente donde juego toda la escuela y se divierte como nunca.
Los profesores son mucho más tranquilos en el ámbito de destrucción, pero no por eso se siente menos la tensión, es como un drama de juicio o cuando juegas cartas, nadie es aliado de nadie. Crewel dice que Trein no debería tener la custodia porque es demasiado viejo, Vargas dice que Crewel no debería tener la custodia porque tiene demasiados perros como para cuidar de un niño, Sam dice que Vargas no debería tener la custodia porque es más tonto que una roca, y Trein dice que Sam no debería tener la custodia porque es demasiado joven.
Mientras todo este drama, destrucción, sangre y demás está pasando, Kalim y Floyd están en alguna parte de NRC con Yuu, felizmente mirando las formas extrañas que toman las nubes (por el mal humor de Malleus) y planeando que hacer en la próxima gran fiesta acuática de Scarabia.
Mientras tanto, se ve en el fondo a uno de los salones de NRC explotar en relámpagos verdes. Esto va para larga.
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beargregor · 5 months ago
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wait i'm curious, what makes you say that gregor doesn't like everyone else (if i read that post right)? just curious since i've never seen anyone else say that
i don't necessarily think gregor dislikes everyone else at lcb but i do think that gregor is an incredibly petty person that isn't nearly as close to the rest of the sinners and even outright dislikes some of them cough cough rodya cough cough which a lot of people just Refuse to see because he's as much of a doormat as he is. there's several examples i could get into to try and prove my point however i'll just focus on what i personally think to be the biggest ones.
additionally, this is going to be kind of long, so i'm adding a read more. read more! read it. sorry for being so wordy. i have several diseases.
Pt1. gregor is the type to try and get along at least decently with everyone, especially if he gets a good first impression from them.
this is less a point in favor of gregor's distance w/ the rest of the sinners and more just a contributing factor to it. once again there's several examples i could point to here but i think the most in your face one happened in canto I with yuri, as several people have pointed out. even before gregor comes clean about growing attached to her as quickly as he did because she reminds him of his sister, we get this interaction.
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i'll go ahead and make the disclaimer now that i don't necessarily think gregor is the most reliable of narrators, especially when it comes to his feelings and interactions with most people, but from the way he acts when the topic of yuri comes up (and the way we still see him act even all the way up to c7, nearly a whole year after yuri's death) i don't see reason to question his sentiment here. gregor immediately got that aya and yuri were close, potentially even taking note of their traded belts, and went out of his way to get something nice for yuri despite hardly knowing her.
i feel like a lot of people have forgotten as much, especially since it's been so long since c1, but gregor actually spent a good bit of season 1 doing the exact same thing with the other sinners! gregor reads a connection between him and ishmael pretty quickly despite getting off to a rocky start
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mostly because gregor can tell that ishmael is pretty sardonic in a very similar way to him. there's been multiple instances where ishmael and gregor have essentially expressed the same sentiment at different moments, most notably gregor's little argument after ishmael got shot with a decay ampule in c4
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and ishmael's response to pilot talking about self-sacrifice in c5
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i could go ahead and pull up more examples, but in general pm has gone out of their way to show us that gregor and ishmael are pretty similar, so it makes sense for gregor to assume that they're friends, right?
this will be pushpin 1. keep note of this for Later.
ishmael's only the first sinner we see gregor trying to do this with in s1, we also see him try it out with heathcliff, sinclair, and ryoushuu
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he's tried to get along with charon, being one of very few sinners that we've seen actually try to establish a connection with her at all
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even rodya, despite my insistence that gregor doesn't like her nearly as much as the fandom thinks he does
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all of these seem pretty fine and dandy, right? sure it frequently leans towards self-degradation, micromanaging, and commiseration, but gregor can at least be pretty chummy with most of the sinners, can't he?
Pt2. hell's chicken was more than just comic relief guys please
i'm fully aware that this is quite the hot take, but i think hell's chicken deserves a lot more credit for character writing than the fandom gives it. hell's chicken gave us foreshadowing for several events, such as the donqui bloodfiend reveal
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heathcliff's distortion in c6 (as well as hong lu's highly speculated distortion at some point in the future)
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and ryoushuu and sinclair's continued connection by making him the odd one out on her team
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which, hey! that implies something about gregor's odd one out, don quixote, too, doesn't it? yes. yes it does. that's pushpin 2. keep note of that for later.
speaking of pushpins, hey! that's pushpin 1!
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splitting into teams is one of the major events in hell's chicken, and most of the sinner's choices are either motivated by very little, backhanded, or motivated primarily by not wanting to be on the opposite leader's side. i didn't include all of the picks, just because i feel like including most of them already gets this across, but i think gregor took one major thing from this: most of the sinners, when push comes to shove, will only side with gregor when they refuse to or can't take his opponent's side.
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now, don't get me wrong, i'm fully aware that this is primarily intended to be comedic relief, but when gregor is being described as having his trust broken by ishmael or nearly crying because no one on his team properly sided with him for him, i feel like it's pretty fair to read into this.
something that i think is pretty important to remember in conjunction with this is that we know that gregor is the type to hold a grudge, both from his general attitude towards the G corp soldiers in c1 as well as his continued distaste for vergilius
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even beyond the splitting into teams of hell's chicken, the sinners have given gregor plenty of reasons to feel bitter. i feel like this is something people have noticed but haven't really put a finger on, but it's kind of wild just how often the rest of the sinners make gregor the butt of the joke
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and sure, we could argue that a fair few of these aren't really made with any ill intent. quite a bit of it could have been meant as harmless teasing, but with gregor being more sensitive than most, it coming from nearly all sides, and as often as it does? yeah, i think he's prone to taking it a bit personally.
Pt3. yes i do still think gregor was the third most important character in canto VII you guys gotta hear me out okay
of course, all of this leads up to the bit of the story i highlighted, doesn't it? c7? i totally get why people haven't really picked up on all the gregor things i did in it, seeing as they were mostly not *directly* said about him or by him.
personally, i think that gregor's distaste for talking about himself on any serious level and thus leading to him getting sort of "sidelined" narratively (which i take issue with that claim, but still. it's effective for getting what i mean across atm) is supposed to lead players to take a deeper look at the times gregor gets held up to other characters and compare and contrast what's being said about them by the matchup. as i showed earlier with his immediate latching onto ishmael, i think this is something gregor himself is at least partially aware of too.
so, that begs the question, who was gregor compared to in canto VII that makes me think it's one of the most critical pieces in understanding his character?
really, i'd like to avoid getting too lost in the analysis of this canto specifically, since i'd like to do a proper post about this later, but i figure i can bury the lede a little before doing it properly.
c7 features several characters being made to perform in sansón's play, acting out the relevant backstory for this segment of the plot. a lot of these characters have rather direct, degrading reasons for playing the roles they do.
outis, a character with an inflated ego who wants her journey to have a purpose, is made to play an aimlessly wandering villager with a single line.
hong lu and ryoushuu, two characters for whom families and the expectations placed upon them are likely going to play a major role, are made to play bloodfiends.
rodya, a character who resents her lot in life and is constantly shown to be eager to leave her destitution behind her and become someone special, is made to play a helpless villager that's too poor to even offer any money to the hero that saves her.
heathcliff, a character that has spent most of his life getting dehumanized by comparing him to beastly animals, is made to play a literal bear whose sole purpose in the plot is to get beat up and then quickly left by the wayside.
sinclair, a character that has two opposed parties essentially treating him as a macguffin to procure for their side, is made to play the character who was arguably the catalyst for this entire canto, not to mention playing a decently major role in ruina.
our star don quixote is made to play her father, the first kindred, but there's someone by their side the entire time, isn't there? don quixote's dear, steadfastly loyal companion. a character which don quixote has tasked themself with getting to come out of their shell?
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hello again, pushpin 2.
gregor has been made to play our unreachable star, sancho. someone had to, of course. you can't really tell a story without it's main character, now can you?
now, i should once again give a disclaimer. i am not trying to say that i think adapting what happens to donqui/sancho in c7 to gregor is the road pm is going to take here, not only would that toe a bit past the line of foreshadowing, but it'd also just amount to rehashing that plotline again, which i don't think would make for a particularly exciting story.
what i DO think is that we can take a lot of the things that are said to either directly be the case for sancho and use them to inform how we see gregor.
and god, does playing sancho have some fucking implications for our favorite ossan archetype.
starting off, the earliest moment we get to see of sancho is quite literally her just waiting for death to take her in a pile of ashes.
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which, i should remind everyone, is actually pretty damn close to what happens to gregor's literary counterpart at the end of the metamorphosis. gregor samsa experiences one final breaking point that pushes him over the edge and makes him decide to just wait for starvation to take him.
gregor and sancho both consider themselves to no longer be human, something which sancho goes out of her way to highlight repeatedly throughout the canto and gregor is quick to get defensive on her behalf for when outis starts really tearing into her
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sancho spends quite a lot of this story denying herself the joys of community and friendship, despite knowing that, even with the rest of the sinners frequently making jokes at her expense and outright insulting her, they were things that she desperately craved.
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and, while this is getting into my "outis is a red herring meant to distract us from gregor's eventual betrayal" theorizing, i also think it's worth noting for this discussion that sancho's fellow kindreds, her family, all seem to be under the impression that she dislikes them and ultimately her departure was an act of betrayal
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and that, despite gregor being one of LCB's resident mood makers and attempted conflict de-escalators, one of the sinners that's most prone to making appeals to the bonds they've all forged together, only him and faust remained silent during everyone's speech
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so yeah, i think there's quite a lot of little details and hints building up to the reveal that gregor's not quite as fond of everyone as he presents himself to be. i do think a lot of this ultimately comes down to gregor getting in the way of his own happiness, similarly to donqui, particularly because he's been frequently portrayed as something of a self fulfilling prophecy, especially by giving him as many christ allegories as they have by way of priest and garden of thorns. gregor is convinced that the rest of the sinners don't like him because he's not convinced anyone could like him, so he convinces himself that he hates them because why should he care if someone that he hates hates him too?
a lot of this ultimately ties back to my personal interpretation of what happens in the metamorphosis as well as my own theories regarding all the times gregor has made weird callbacks and references to lobcorp and ruina, but yeah. i think about this guy and his deeper characterization a fairly normal amount, i think.
to end this off i'll highlight one of my favorite little "gregor is fucking seething and trying so hard to keep it cool" moments, in the credits CG for c7 we see rodya teasing him by drawing a little horse on his window and actively pointing and laughing at it, which gregor really doesn't seem all too pleased about.
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i personally think this ties into the other cruel part of sansón forcing gregor to play rocinante, which is the more literal "he's actually just straight up playing rocinante" side of things. gregor was quite literally made to play something less than human, less than even animal really, as he was reduced to nothing more than the shoes don quixote wore as she got to play the leading role. sansón directly makes jokes about gregor being nothing more than shoes in the play twice, which adds to this reading, i think.
this, imo, really plays into the adaptation of the metamorphosis! i've seen a lot of readings for the book that posit that, despite being the protagonist, gregor samsa can't really be considered the main character due to nearly everything he experiences in it being used to further his family's character development at his expense, which i think fits nicely with limbus gregor seemingly having the most said about him through indirect means by holding him up to other characters. also it's rodya carelessly making fun of His Big Major Insecurities™ again like she did in c1 which i always find fun. rodya i love you but god you're the worst.
#beargregor's property#limbus company#project moon#lcb gregor#something to bear in mind#beargregor's analysis#beargregor's theories#do i bother tagging both of those i feel like i do#oh also.#long post#sorry guys i promised i would try and stay brief when i set out to respond to this ask and before i knew it seven hours passed#my bad#does this give me normal gregor fan cred#i'm fully preparing myself to be screenshotted and posted to twitter or reddit with people making fun of my reading of him but idrc honestl#also i'm really hoping that LCB regular check up has donqui actually like#confront gregor about the fact that he was playing her in sansón's plays#i've seen people insinuate that any deeper reading to the roles they got in them is doing too much#and while i really don't agree with that just due to how much sansón fit the roles to be as cruel as possible to their sinners#i do think at the very bare minimum that the comparisons drawn between gregor and sancho are Very Intentional#despite gregor's supposed lack of proper Deep character moments people love to claim i really do think that we know a lot about him#significantly more than people think we do#just because so much of it has been told to us indirectly or has this aspect of plausible deniability to it#just due to gregor being the way he is#a lot of these smaller subtler details in his proper main writing get highlighted more in his IDs and EGO#like gregor's pettiness and grudge holding in AEDD or the aforementioned self-fulfilling prophecy-ness of priest and garden of thorns#anyway. that's it. gregor is fat by the way did i mention that. also very hairy. refer to my url for more details.#ignore how i just can't shut up about him i promise i'm normal. i promise it's over i can rant about him more another day. i swear.
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sunny-knight · 1 month ago
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I know this isn’t canon in undertale or this au, but just imagining Papyrus knowing about resets to an extent because part of him was split across time and space, and he just hides that from everyone so he can be “everyone’s good old innocent Papyrus with 0 problems” is such a fun idea to me.
I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS ON THIS THOUGH- BECAUSE WHAT IF IT WAS CANON???
Excuse me while I use this to make an analysis of Papyrus’ character- i didn’t choose this life. This happened to me.
PAPYRUS AND RESETS.
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The main question I ask on the debate of if Papyrus is aware of resets or not, is…if Papyrus, as we know him…doesn’t know about resets…Then would learning about that…change ANYTHING about the way he is now?
The most obvious trait of Papyrus is that he’s INCREDIBLY optimistic. He’s one to go in with his head held high, and keep it raised for basically his entire life. Everything he does is incredibly light hearted, and this leads to a lot of accidental flanderization and misremembering of his character. But to get more into that, I wanna address how Papyrus and Sans contrast and are foils to one another. They are complete polar opposites…and yet… SO alike. In their little bits they do in the Snowdin Forest puzzles, Sans doesn’t take anything seriously, while Papyrus takes EVERYTHING seriously, but in the end it’s all light hearted. I know some of that comes from just the games general tone, but I like to think some of it is part of their genuine character.
Analyzing characters in Undertale can sometimes be a tad frustrating in that way, since its hard to tell which jokes have meaning and which jokes are just jokes.
But back to my original point, Papyrus sometimes gets very mad, sometimes very confused, but seems to either flip on a switch with anger, or just roll with confusion, as seen with Papyrus being “mad” at Sans, or confused at what Undyne is saying on certain phone calls. He’s just naturally a very happy person.
Thats where the common trope of Papyrus lying about everything and actually being a completely different person from whats shown in the game comes in. I think thats inherently a tad silly, since “I lied.” is a bit of a lazy twist. THATS NOT TO SAY HES NOT DEFINITELY GOT SOME WEIRD SUSPICIOUS THINGS ABOUT HIM Its just to throw all of his actions in the game out the window in favor of “he was acting” “he was lying” is not how I like to analyze him (but if you do, more power to ya :D) (Some also argue that Sans is just like that, but I disagree since in the geno route when its properly revealed just how much he knows about resets, it completely makes sense and is more like an answer to a question we had for the longest time. WHAT does he know?? cause he clearly knows something. Additionally, in that fight, Sans doesn’t at all come across as a completely different person, its more like we’re getting to know him better. See a side that he’s buried for the longest time since he never thought it would come to this. Or at least hopes to god it wouldn’t)
Papyrus’ optimism/pacifism both comes across as naive, and extremely admirable. It takes different forms in different settings and perspectives, Flowey dismisses it as stupid, but thats because he’s Flowey- Sans genuinely admires it for several reasons which ill get into later! And Undyne…uhh…honestly i cant tell how she feels about that, just that she cares an awful lot about him and thinks itll get him killed one day (*cries vehemently*)
But my main point here is in the usual game/pacifist route, its very clearly established that Papyrus has a heart of gold and sometimes that can get exploited on how he is the one constant moving factor to help the route actually happen in helping Flowey set everything up. It’s lowkey giving foreshadowing on how he may be the knight in deltarune because of- OKAY OKAY- PUT DOWN THE GUN
Getting exploited is one of the downsides we see in the pacifist route, but in the geno, we get a VERY clear look into how far he is willing to take his faith in others. His willingness to see good in people is tested, and its established he doesn’t have a single distrustful bone in his body, always believing in people to change. It’s never “too late”. Even after you kill him too
This is HOW Papyrus would know about resets comes in
The King Papyrus ending is a moment in the game that I have many opinions on that disagree with a LOT with a big portion of the fandom (at least last time I checked)
Papyrus not being told about his friend's death, leads to 2 big assumptions about his GENERAL CHARACTER THAT I DISAGREE WITH. Sans lies to Papyrus on a daily basis, and Papyrus doesnt understand what death is. These are things that work in to fit every day life, and are proven by happening WHEN ALL OF HIS FRIENDS ARE DEAD 😭
I feel these are more a result of Papyrus’ unwavering trust, which can be certainly admired in a lot of ways, but of course, used, too. Even if people agree with me on that unwavering trust part, people still use that as ammunition for Sans lying to him being an often occurrence. But- Sans… right now- is being put in a REALLY bad spot. Telling his brother to his face that all his friends are dead isn't something I think anyone wants to do. So, him lying to Papyrus isn’t exactly proof that he thinks little of him in any way, it's more his desire to protect a person he loves from knowing a horrible truth, and having the opportunity to do so on a silver fukn platter. But even then it feels like Papyrus still knows…he’d just rather accept whatever Sans tells him. Thats Papyrus’ ONE AND ONLY FLAW
Papyrus also seems like he naturally thinks very black and white? and by black and white I mean only white.
The common consensus on his character is he only SEES good, but just like the assumption of how things work in daily life being attached to how these characters act when someone comes down and kills all their loved ones, I think thats working on a very surface level character-moral-compass. Its not that he only sees the good, its that he believes in the good no matter what. There may be bad, but good can and will, prevail
Papyrus sees and knows that people have the ABILITY to lie, he just also believes they are telling the truth when they say something like “I promise this is 100% true” because he still trusts everyone, and trusts himself to handle whatever happens as a result.
Papyrus sees that the world may never truly have an ending, but he believes that things will turn out eventually.
Papyrus is not stupid, he’s optimistic.
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enbyfvcker · 6 months ago
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[Porn star puppy]
𝙒𝙖𝙙𝙚 𝙒𝙞𝙡𝙨𝙤𝙣 𝙭 𝙇𝙤𝙜𝙖𝙣 (𝙬𝙤𝙧𝙨𝙩!𝙬𝙤𝙡𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙞𝙣𝙚)
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𝙎𝙪𝙢𝙢𝙖𝙧𝙮/𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙢𝙥𝙩: Wade helps to distract his grumpy boyfriend from alcohol withdrawal by forcing orgasm after orgasm from him.
𝙏𝙖𝙜𝙨: Smut, rim, anal sex, handjob, overstimulation, multiple orgasms, praise kink, slight degradation kink, hair pulling, sex tape, sub/dom subtones, bottom!logan, top!wade, fourth wall break.
It was a rough fucking day. When Logan normally tags along with Wade at his casual hit jobs, they don't usually stress him out so much. They just get the job done easy, peasy. Kill some bad guys, yada yada and all that. And it was nice to do something once in a while so that he wouldn't just rot in the apartment he now shared with his mouthy boyfriend and a blind old lady. (Logan was definitely not used to calling Wade that but it was a working progress. Besides, it has just been a few weeks since they put a name to what they have.)
But no, today drained him. He's been more testy lately if he actually thinks about it...
It was probably the fucking withdrawal. It was getting worse.
Turns out the cons of having a boyfriend now is that for once, when he acted like the self-destructive little shit that he is, he now felt like he was dragging Wade along. Fine, it wasn't really a con... It's just that Logan was used to being miserable, used to kicking himself down and drowning himself in bottles and bottles so he could escape from his own thoughts for a little while.
But Wade 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 cared. Wade cared, and Logan could see it whenever Wade took care of him when he'd come back to the apartment stumbling and barely able to hold himself up until he passed out on the couch after spending hours on a random bar. The seventh that he had been banned from in this universe already.
So maybe he hesitantly gave in and let the merc convince him to try and stay sober.
And fuck if it isn't hard as hell.
Logan was exhausted and pent up and grumpy and god he craved a drink more than anything. Several, actually.
But Wade... Well, he had his ways to distract and ease him. So it wasn't all bad.
Al was out for a date for plot convenience, and right now they were on the living room couch and Wade has his grumpy boyfriend with his back glued to his chest and grunting as Wade pumped his over-stimulated cock mercilessly. Logan's thighs were trembling, and he could barely form any coherent words, his eyes rolling back into his head as he rested it on Wade's shoulder and Wade was fucking mesmerized by the sight in front of him.
"You don't look so scary when you're all pliant and desperate in my arms, baby girl. You're just a little kitty cat, aren't you?" Wade coos in Logan's ear.
"Shut the f-fuck up-" Logan grunt in annoyance but Wade could feel his boyfriend's cock twitching in his fist and he couldn't help but smirk. Logan mind was dazed. He's lost count of how many orgasms Wade pulled out of him, his thighs and abs in a mess of his own cum. The pleasure was bordering on painful, and yet he couldn't get enough, his body overwhelmed and desperate for more. His healing factor aiding his torture, reliving his libido right after he thought he couldn't take anymore.
"Can't take you seriously when you look so sinful covered in your own juices, princess. God, you look pornographic. You think we should make amateur videos? I think they'd be a hit. The freaks reading this would surely eat it up."
"Wade-" Logan warns through gritted teeth. He lift his arm and his claws pricked out an inch and threatened to come out, but Logan's mind was too focused on the overwhelming stimulation to get them out properly.
"Ah, ah, ah. Down, boy." Wade scouts, tightening his fist on Logan's cock and using his other hand to rub the palm of it against the sensitive tip, earning a desperate whine from his lips, the claws coming back to his arms fully. "Behave."
Logan could hear the grin in Wade's voice and he wanted to fucking mutilate it out of his face, but he didn't had the energy to do much more than whimper like a bitch in heat.
"That's a good boy." Wade praises and Logan felt his cock throb at the words. "God, if you had a tail it'd be fucking wagging right now. That's it, peanut, take it like a good puppy."
"Fuck-" Logan growls, and his hips rut desperately into Wade's hand before he stills and shakes while another stream of thick ropes of cum paint his thighs. Wade 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 loved digging into Logan's praise kink.
Before he could even catch his breath he gasped out a strangled whine as Wade's hand returned to it's previous movements, unrelenting.
"W-Wade!" Logan cries out, his legs trembling.
"Tapping out already, baby girl? Come on, give me one more." The merc coos, licking and nipping at the back of his neck and suckling marks that desapeared in seconds. "Do you want me to stop?"
"N-No... Please," Logan whines and he hates how desperate he sounds, but he also don't fucking cares. Right now, his mind's all fuzzy and his inhibitions said goodbye long time ago. He felt safe with Wade, like he could just let go. "Don't."
Wade rewarded him by pumping faster, his free hand squeezing Logan's pec and pinching his nipple in a movement that made Logan arch his back and whimper, his ass rubbing against Wade's raging hard on. 𝘐𝘵 𝘮𝘢𝘥𝘦 𝘩𝘪𝘮 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘺.
"W-Wade, I..." Logan pants, his cheeks warming as he tries to find words that wouldn't make him want to blow up in shame.
"Hm?" He feels his boyfriend tightening the grip in his cock. "Use your words, peanut, go on."
"Shit- Wade... Want your cock." He moans, his cheeks flushing as he clench his fists tight. He could just feel Wade grinning behind him.
"Yeah? How do you want it, baby cheeks?"
"You know how." Logan grunts in response, whining when Wade slows down his hand almost to a stop, pumping in a torturing slow pace.
"Yeah, but I wanna hear you say it, baby."
"Just fuckin- Fuck me already before I impale you in my claws, jerk." He growls.
"Good enough." Wade shrugs with a grin and switches their position in a quick movement, putting Logan on all fours on the couch, making him gasp. "So pretty for me." Wade praised, spreading Logan's cheeks. "You're dripping all over my couch, baby girl."
"Stop fucking calling me th-" He's interrupted by his own groan as Wade dives in and licks his rim, opening him up with his togue, reaching as deep as he could. Logan cries out, not sure if it was too much or not enough. "Wade... stop fucking teasing me, just do it already before I regret it and rail 𝘺𝘰𝘶 instead."
"You're extra bossy today, huh?" Wade chuckles, giving one last lick before moving to grab a bottle of lube in his pants pocket and desposing of them right after, spilling the liquid over his lenght. "Don't worry, I'll turn your brain mushy soon enough, cutie. Be patient for daddy."
"I swear to fucking g- oh 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬." He growls as Wade slides in roughly, his initial grumpiness replaced by a rush of pleasure. Wade takes a punishing pace, forcing desperate moans and whimpers out of him. Logan's arms were trembling, and he slacked his torso onto the couch, his back arching in a filthy angle that has Wade drooling.
"God, I wish you could see yourself right now..." Wade grunts behind him, a clear grin on his voice. "All strong and tough and fucking slutty just for me. Such eye candy."
Wade looks into an invisible audience and grins. "Yeah, I'm talking Hugh Fucking Jackman on all fours in the goddamn void level type shit, but like 10 times better."
Logan snarled but he could barely think of a retort to reprimand Wade, his mind buzzing in pleasure, lewd moans escaping from his lips that would have him blushing if he weren't completely cock drunk right now. He could feel himself leaking pre-cum at the merc's words and 𝘨𝘰𝘥 he feels pathetic, but he fucking likes it.
He shivered as he heard a goddam camera sound behind him and when he turned his head to the side he saw Wade grabbed his fucking phone and was taking pictures of him in this position, and it really shouldn't have sent all his blood straight to his cock the way it did.
"The fuck are you doing, bub?"
"Oh this one's definitely going to my wank material album." Wade just smirked in response.
"I'm gonna rip your fucking fingers out-" He moans loudly when Wade grabs his hair in his fist and tugs it back, arching Logan's back even more. Fireworks pop inside Logan's head as Wade's cock hit his prostate and brushes against it over and over in a quick pace.
"Shh, now kitty, just take it." Wade moans as he presses the record button. "My little porn star, so fucking hot."
"Shit- fuck, fuck, fuck," Logan whimpers, his cock twitching repeatedly, his balls growing tighter as his body prepares for yet another orgasm, probably the fifth of the night or something, he wasn't sure.
"Go on, Wolvie. Show me the good little cockwhore you are for me, kitten.
"Gonna cum, gonna-" A series of whines leaves his throat. His claws come out in a flash and dig into the cushions as he paints the couch with his seed, his eyes rolling back at the intense wave of pleasure hitting him like a train.
"God-" Wade wasn't far behind. He gaps and thrusts roughly a couple more times before spilling inside Logan with a desperate moan, as if he's been holding back just to bring his boyfriend to the edge first.
Logan was now boneless in the couch, his mind fully empty as he swims in the afterglow. He wasn't thinking or worrying or craving any drink, and it just felt like heaven. When his heartbeat comes back to normal he unsheathed his claws from the poor couch, sliding them back into his skin.
After a few seconds catching his breath, Wade pulls out with a grunt and records with a smirk as his cum leaks out of Logan's puffy hole before tossing his phone aside. He leans down and wrap his arms around Logan, settling them until they're spooning in the cum soaked couch, barely fitting them both layed like this.
"We should get up and clean this mess before Althea gets home wonder why the house smells like bleach." Logan sighs gruffly, but he doesn't make any move to leave, his body too exhausted.
"Mhmm. Just five more minutes, mom."
Logan roll his eyes.
"God, you're insufferable."
"Yeah, well, you love me anyway, peanut."
And he doesn't reply anything, not a mean retort or an annoyed growl because it was true.
He does love this idiot.
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thewistlingbadger · 5 months ago
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So when I watched season two for the first time I felt very weird very odd very baffled because it felt like so much information was being thrown at me while simultaneously it felt like nothing was going on. I was truly stunned by how the show was several hours long and yet I felt like nothing was happening. It was such an odd thing to feel. And I'm rewatching S2 for the first time now and that feeling is still there. The feeling of being overwhelmed and underwhelmed at the same time.
Only now, I think I understand why this is the case. I think the reason why S2 feels like a nothing burger to me is because they glossed over everything that was interesting. Just think about it a moment. The chem barons struggling for power was interesting. Caitlyn's squad going to the Undercity and messing with things, looking for jinx, was interesting. Zaunites rallying against piltover was interesting. Caitlyn's time as a commander was interesting. Vi's switch up on jinx from sister to enemy to sister again was interesting. Vi's emo phase was interesting. Viktor's time in his cocoon and his change of heart was interesting. Mel's family tree and her new powers were interesting.
These were all things that were very compelling and fascinating but we never actually got to spend any significant time on any of these. In fact the majority of these things received the music video treatment. VI after Caitlyn? Music video. Zaun after piltover comes in? Music video. Zaun after silco died? Music video. Caitlyn's squad in the Undercity? Music video. Caitlyn's impact as commander? Also music video. Other things that were interesting were just straight up ignored, like viktor's character switch up, like the change in relationship between jinx and vi, etc. These changes were just things that happened without any sort of reason behind it. Everything that would have been really cool to see was forgotten or only shown for the briefest of moments.
Additionally I think another factor that contributes to this issue is the structure of season two. At times, the season doesn't tell the story in order and certain characters FREQUENTLY disappear for periods of time. For example, in episode two you see that a chen baroness's lair was raided and filled with the gray. However it isn't revealed to the audience that Caitlyn's crew are using the gray in zaun and taking out chem barons until the next episode. When I watched that scene for the first time I was very confused as to what was going on. The scene where they do reveal that it was Caitlyn is so fast paced it's easy to completely miss what was trying to be communicating. I didn't even notice they were destroying shimmer in that scene until after the show ended! Showing vital information so quickly and telling the story out of order makes it hard to follow what's going on.
The disappearance of characters is also a major issue in my opinion. While writing characters off can allow for a more isolated moment to tell a specific story, season two didn't utilize this in the way that was intended. They wrote off several characters and then in that time, they didn't explore anything with the characters they kept. Then way later they brought back the characters that were written off earlier and now those characters that have been MIA are significantly different. There are several examples of this unfortunately. For example, Mel disappears in episode 3. We see her again in episode 5 to explore her story slightly. However Mel doesn't actually join the main story until episode 8. So she's been missing from the main plot line for 5 episodes. This makes her feel really disconnected from the events of the story. An even worse example is in Viktor. As the season progressed, Viktor became the season's main antagonist, but he was only in the show for 5 episodes. Whenever we saw him it was very briefly and we didn't understand why he was so different than he was in the first season. His personality kept changing every time we saw him. How can Viktor be the main antagonist if we rarely see him and don't understand his motivations? Viktor splits from Jayce in ep2, then he performed his first miracle in EP3. We don't see Viktor again until ep6 and by then he already has his own commune and everything. By episode 8, which is the next time we see Viktor, he has completely changed once again and is now actually functioning as an antagonist. So even tho the show treats him like an antagonist he doesn't actually function as one truly until the final two episodes of the show. You just can't have a character disappear for so long and change so much without explaining and showing why.
Season two DOES overwhelm the viewer and it does this by presenting tons of information in a brief period while also not giving the viewer all the possible information. So not only are you trying to understand what you just saw in a flash montage but you're also trying to understand how the show got to point A to point E when they never showed you B, C or D. The show presents information quickly and cuts out information for the sake of telling more story, but unfortunately by doing this they've cut out all the parts of the story that were actually interesting! So we ended up spending tons of time on things that weren't interesting!!!!
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doberbutts · 2 years ago
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The problem with the concept that there are trans men who don’t have male privilege is that it seems to imply that there are trans women who DO have it, which is a concept that is widely agreed to be unequivocally transmisogynistic. Any rebuttal for this?
My rebuttal is; I know trans women who have lived in my house and sat on my couch and watched movies and played videogames with me who have told me to my face that they did receive male privilege on a similar incredibly conditional, individual, and situational basis similar to how I am describing for trans men, how it relied on the closet and total stealth, and very aware they had to be of the line they were toeing, and how much worse they are treated now that they are out and transitioning, and how afraid they are to say it because of rabid people online who are looking for any excuse whatsoever to hurt them when they deal with that enough in their everyday lives.
I am forever reminded of this older interview (mid-90s early 2000s I think) of transgender Japanese citizens and this one person who was probably what we would call a trans woman. And, like my butch friend, was trapped in a situation in which there was absolutely zero room to breathe. They were amab, married to a woman with multiple children, working as a businessman to support the family. They said how they always felt like a woman on the inside, and how they knew that could never be a reality for them, so they didn't see much point in pursuing anything because it would break their family apart. The only thing they could do was make various cute needlework girly things during their daily commute to and from work. They had some cover story for their wife that they were buying them from a shop for their daughters or something.
Do you think that this person, who is perceived by everyone around them to be a cis man for several decades, does not benefit from male privilege in any way despite probably not actually being a man? Do you understand what I'm talking about when I say that this is a topic that needs to be discussed with far more delicacy and nuance than "man privilege woman not privilege"?
Do you think that all of the accounts of trans women out there saying "when I came out and started identifying as and passing for a woman, people suddenly started treating me much worse" and "I frequently have to boymode because otherwise my life is too dangerous" aren't discussions of exactly what I'm talking about?
Privilege is a tricky, complicated thing. It's also something bigoted society bestows upon you, and not a moral critique of your own existence. TERFs and MRAs both have poisoned the well, but that's not a reason to completely disregard the much-needed grace that has to be had during these conversations.
Personally I think any trans person's experience with "male privilege" is shakey at best and entirely contingent on a wide number of factors that you can't just point at their gender and say yes or no. I think it's way more complicated than that. And I don't think anyone is lesser for having or not having it, either. Gender is a morally neutral thing. Gender presentation is a morally neutral thing. It is okay to exist. It's okay to have a complicated existence.
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